Comments on: The Death of Youth Ministry (pt4) | Youth Pastors Don’t Take it Serious http://www.nikao.ws/2008/08/20/the-death-of-youth-ministry-pt4-youth-pastors-dont-take-it-serious/ the price you pay for the life you choose Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:30:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Luke http://www.nikao.ws/2008/08/20/the-death-of-youth-ministry-pt4-youth-pastors-dont-take-it-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-2180 Luke Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:26:16 +0000 http://www.nikao.ws/?p=714#comment-2180 The missing comments are not intentional. A quirk from the design switch. Still working on it. (Worked fine until I actually published the changes, of course). The missing comments are not intentional. A quirk from the design switch. Still working on it. (Worked fine until I actually published the changes, of course).

]]> By: Vince http://www.nikao.ws/2008/08/20/the-death-of-youth-ministry-pt4-youth-pastors-dont-take-it-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-2177 Vince Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:40:53 +0000 http://www.nikao.ws/?p=714#comment-2177 good point look fyi - your blog settings won't let me comment over there. maybe that's intentional? good point look

fyi – your blog settings won’t let me comment over there. maybe that’s intentional?

]]> By: Luke http://www.nikao.ws/2008/08/20/the-death-of-youth-ministry-pt4-youth-pastors-dont-take-it-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-2158 Luke Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:09:20 +0000 http://www.nikao.ws/?p=714#comment-2158 I think another danger/shortcoming is the great deal of youth pastors who shouldn't be doing that job in the first place. These are usually the ones who had fun in youth group and think this is a good way to continue that experience. Or high school was such a great time that they are trying to cling on to those memories by living vicariously through students. The problem is that they continue to act like teenagers rather than being the adult role models that their students actually need. This is a hard job. And one that takes a level of maturity that is hard to recognize behind the shaving cream, gummy worms, and pool noodles. I wish there was a better filtering process at Christian universities and training programs... a way to separate the "here to keep the party going" crew from the "here to help Jesus make a difference" crew. I think another danger/shortcoming is the great deal of youth pastors who shouldn’t be doing that job in the first place. These are usually the ones who had fun in youth group and think this is a good way to continue that experience. Or high school was such a great time that they are trying to cling on to those memories by living vicariously through students.
The problem is that they continue to act like teenagers rather than being the adult role models that their students actually need.
This is a hard job. And one that takes a level of maturity that is hard to recognize behind the shaving cream, gummy worms, and pool noodles.
I wish there was a better filtering process at Christian universities and training programs… a way to separate the “here to keep the party going” crew from the “here to help Jesus make a difference” crew.

]]> By: Vince http://www.nikao.ws/2008/08/20/the-death-of-youth-ministry-pt4-youth-pastors-dont-take-it-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-2151 Vince Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:50:27 +0000 http://www.nikao.ws/?p=714#comment-2151 Still in the asking questions stage of my thoughts. I'm hoping people will come up with some solutions and framework ideas along the way. Still in the asking questions stage of my thoughts. I’m hoping people will come up with some solutions and framework ideas along the way.

]]> By: micah http://www.nikao.ws/2008/08/20/the-death-of-youth-ministry-pt4-youth-pastors-dont-take-it-serious/comment-page-1/#comment-2150 micah Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:25:41 +0000 http://www.nikao.ws/?p=714#comment-2150 you still haven't built any youth ministry framework....its probably still coming.... maybe you should be a senior pastor first and then after you have kids be the youth pastor you still haven’t built any youth ministry framework….its probably still coming…. maybe you should be a senior pastor first and then after you have kids be the youth pastor

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